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[Azazel]

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 45 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A2 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DC 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FD 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2C 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F2 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3D 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4D 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DA 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BF 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0E 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 85 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 22 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A7 90 1D

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DD 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 10 01 11 22 33 44 55 66 [82] Pz-135 Pz-134 Pz-133...........Pz-1 Pz -> 90 1D; waarbij de bytes tussen P4 en [82] (11 22 33 44 55 66) we geen 90 1D als respons krijgen bij het verplaatsen van [82] in zijn 'posities' en verplaatse van byte 00 in de SSE (rechts van de [82]) om de LEN=90 te verkrijgen.

 

 

 

[Azazel]

Hallo satvrienden,

 

zoals we kunnen zien begint het nu echt leuk te worden..

Met veel dank aan Novatorx, die vele uren aan testen e.d. verslijt, kunnen we veel nieuwe dingen ontdekken.

 

Ik blijf zelf ook intensief bezig met testen, testen en nog eens testen en zal jullie op de hoogte houden.

 

Saludos!

 

'Azazel miembro del equipo RAIDEN, la resistencia.'

[Gast]

@azzazel,

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 90 1D

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 3C 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DD 90 1D

 

.... is een stukje van jouw laatste posting. Ik ben hier niet in staat om dit soort gegevens hier te testen of te verifieren. Het begin van jouw posting d.d. 1/2/03 kon ik wel volgen, maar uit bovenstaande valt mij toch iets vreemds op. Hier kun je zien dat 82 "een plaats"is opgeschoven en inderdaad zoals door jouw al voorspelt xx 90 1D maakt. Maar : Heb je ook al geprobeerd om de 82 op de 6e positie te plaatsen ?. op P8 geeft C7 90 1D en P7 geeft oa DD 90 1D, veelbelovend dus, maar wat op P6 ???.

Graag jouw reactie. Want het lijkt erop dat 82 wel belangrijk is, maar dat er nog "eentje "moet zijn.

 

Ga ik het puur technisch benaderen, had ik niet DD 90 1D verwacht. Maar zoals ik al zei, ik ben hier beperkt in mijn mogelijkheden.

 

[Azazel]

Hallo satvrienden,

 

@fluister

Als eerste wil ik je bedanken dat je betreffende deze kwestie meedenkt en een postieve bijdrage probeerd te leveren.

 

Natuurlijk is nano82 belangrijk, maar het is, zoals jezelf al zegt niet de enige belangrijke data die we zoeken.

 

Op P6 ziet het als volgt uit:

 

C1 3C 01 BF 63 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 81

 

Status : 90 1D

 

Bij PZ -> 81 krijg ik een 90 1D.

 

Ik ga even een stukje terug in de posting en gebruik de nano82 op de positie die werd aangegeven door Kimble. Naar aanleiding daarvan zal ik het hele verhaaltje iets gedetailleerder uitleggen zodat er meerderen hiermee kunnen gaan 'spelen' cq testen. Alle hulp is welkom gezien de hoeveelheid van combinaties. Dit gaat echt dagen...... weken.. in beslag nemen.

 

 

Dus ff terug in de tijd:

 

We gaan nano82 op de positie zetten zoals destijds aangegeven door Kimble:

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 f6

Status < 90 37

 

Wat we dus gaan doen is de waarde van PZ veranderen totdat we de status 90 1D krijgen. (de waarde vanaf 00 tot FF)

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6

Status < 90 1D

 

Zoals men kan zien verkrijgen we pas de 90 1D totdat we bij PZ->C6 zijn aangekomen.

Maar we gaan verder:

 

Nu moeten we dezelfde cyclus toepassen op de bytes ervoor, totdat we dus de 90 1D krijgen... (dit is wel heel lang werk, maar het is de moeite waard)

 

We zullen de bytes voor de Pz, Pz-1, Pz-2, Pz-3, Pz-4, enz. noemen, dus:

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 10 01 .....82.....-1 C6

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 10 01 .....82.....-2 -1 C6

 

C1 3C 01 BF 90 10 01 .....82.....-3 -2 -1 C6

 

Wat we nu gaan doen is de Pz-1, Pz-2 enz., van waardes 00 tot FF voorzien totdat we dus met dezelfde Ins. 90 1D krijgen.

 

Ook belangrijk om te even uit te leggen is de P2. Nadat we dus de 90 1D hebben verkregen gaan we er even vanuit dat nano82 op de correcte positie staat, daarna sturen we de ins. voor het controleren van de 'gebruikte key' die door Kimble als BF is gezet. Let op deze key is dus niet echt maar verzonnen, en omdat deze key niet op de kaart aanwezig is geeft ie dus vanzelfsprekend dit repsons.

 

Goed we gaan weer verder met de waardes Pz, Pz-1, Pz-2 enz.

 

We beginnen dus op Pz-1.

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 c6

Status < 90 37

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 C6

Status < 90 02

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 C6

Status < 90 37

 

Enz. enz... totdat we bij 99 komen:

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 99 C6

Status < 90 1D

 

Op naar de volgen.... de Pz-2:

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 99 C6

Status < 90 37

 

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 99 C6

Status < 90 37

 

......................tot de c8 krijgen we dus geen 90 1D.

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C8 99 C6

Status < 90 1D

 

Ik ga even een aantal stappen vooruit en kom uit bij:

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 [color:"black"] 35 [/color] FD DB D3 FA CE C0 03 05 00 0B 00 F3 A4 4B 00 D3 37 F5 9B 2D 00 A6 07 E7 C4 6A 53 F7 07 00 C8 99 C6

Status < [color:"black"] 90 1D [/color]

 

En zo door......

 

Nu kunnen we de nano82 op verschillende plaatsen gaan plaatsen en dezelfde cyclus gaan volgen......

 

Saludos!

 

'Azazel miembro del equipo RAIDEN, la resitencia.'

[Azazel]

Aan al diegenen met een season2-logger

 

De season2-logger is een leuk speeltje. Bij zeca1 werkte deze perfect. Ook bij seca2 gaat het wel.

De meeste ins. zijn wel bekend, maar ik denk dat er mischien nog een aantal ontbreken.

 

Wat je dus zou kunnen doen is op zoveel mogelijk verschillende tijden en kanalen te loggen, en goed uit kijken naar 'vreemde' ins.

Je krijgt dus een veel data binnen, kijk naar de ECM ins.

 

Voor meer info, kijk even op de pagina van Duwgatie, daar staat uitgebreide informatie betreffende het loggen.

 

Ik voeg deze antwoord hier op de forum ipv PM (hoop dat je het niet erg vind), zodat er meerderen met een season kunnen gaan spelen, en een bijdrage kunnen leveren naar het vervolg van de studie.

 

Saludos!

 

'Azazel miembro del equipo RAIDEN, la resistencia.'

 

 

[Gast]

@azazel...

 

Ik ga even een aantal stappen vooruit en kom uit bij:

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 35 FD DB D3 FA CE C0 03 05 00 0B 00 F3 A4 4B 00 D3 37 F5 9B 2D 00 A6 07 E7 C4 6A 53 F7 07 00 C8 99 C6

Status < 90 1D

 

Maar wat denk je hier dan van :

 

 

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 35 FD DB D3 FA CE C0 03 05 00 0B 00 F3 A4 4B 00 D3 37 F5 9B 2D 00 A6 07 E7 C4 6A 53 F7 07 00 C8 99 C6

Status < 90 1D

 

82 op geheel andere positie maar wel 90 1D, is dit toeval... Ik denk het niet. Bedoel jij dit met "nu kunnen wij 82 op div. plaatsen zetten.

Goed nieuws : heb inmiddels hier ook een kaart gekregen, dus kan me nu wat meer verdiepen in de materie.

Even terug op een eerdere posting van mij: "wat gebeurd er op P6...?" Bedankt voor je antwoord, maar nu ik het zelf ook een paar keer ingevoerd heb krijg ik niet het antwoord wat jij geschreven hebt ????

Dit zal toch niet per kaart verschillend zijn.

Ga nu even verder met mijn eigen kaart aan de hand van jouw eerdere postings, om de studie wat meer te begrijpen. Begrijp inmiddels wel dat het tot nu toe bergen met tijd kost; goeiedag zeg, een dag is zo voorbij.

 

groeten

Fluister

[bundy6073]

jongens ik kijk mijn ogen uit wat hier allemaal gebeurd,ik kan alleen maar zeggen Ga zo door TOP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[rlckring]

Welke Software word er dan voornamelijk hiervoor gebruikt...

[Gast]

Mensen 1 verzoek namens allen die heel erg druk zijn met deze materie,

AUB geen postings die niets bijdragen.

Bedoel dus heb gehoord/gezien/Zou het kunnen dat

Als je iets concreets te melden hebt(ook al twijfel je) dan graag.

Ook mijn tijd is beperkt en de tijd van Azazel(heb je nog vrije tijd trouwens gezien wat je allemaal doet) idem dito.

Ik heb eigenlijk geen zin blabla te lezen en niets konkreets te ervaren.

Laten we dus iets afspreken:

heb je echt info posten

Wil je wat weten wacht dan af

Want echt als er belangrijke ontwikkelingen zijn kijk hier en je bent,(op een paar mensen na, de eerste die het weet.

Avensis die in het kader vd LCE even zijn prior verlegd had.

 

[rlckring]

Zal kijken of ik dat programma kan vinden...

[Gast]

@azazel en kimble,

 

Nu eindelijk mijn eigen kaart om te testen, kom nu even terug op mijn voruge posting... Moest azazel toch wel gelijk geven : zal wel aan mij gelegen hebben. Volgende kreeg ik dus ook uit mij kaart :

 

Ins > c1 3c 01 bf 90

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 35 FD DB D3 FA CE C0 03 05 00 0B 00 F3 A4 4B 00 D3 37 F5 9B 2D 00 A6 07 E7 C4 6A 53 F7 07 00 C8 99 C6

Status < 90 1D

 

Ik heb nu het idee dat er nog meer is wat we mee moeten nemen in deze studie. Of is het juist dat we iets heel simpels over het hoofd zien, gezien jouw eerdere respones ??

 

 

 

 

Maar hoe ik ook verder probeer te komen, ik begrijp de respons niet helemaal. In bovenstaand voorbeeld/gevolg staat wel duidelijk : ins c1 3c xxx... , maar wacht even dit hebben wij bij S1 ook al meegemakt. Denken jullie ( azazel en kimble) niet dat we nu zo langerzamerhand het moeten gaan zoeken in tja "aangepaste"ins ?. Ik bedoel : gebeurd dit ook al niet in meer of mindere maat bij via2 ?. Het lijkt mij sterk dat de ins die gebruikt werden veel af zouden wijken.

Wat geeft jullie kaart op :

Ins > c1 3c 02 bf 90 (let op 02 ipv 01) ???????

Data > 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 35 FD DB D3 FA CE C0 03 05 00 0B 00 xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xxStatus < 90 1D

 

 

 

[Azazel]

Hallo Satvrienden,

 

Uitleg in dit topic zou je op een latere tijdstip nodig kunnen hebben bij de 'zelfstudie seca2'.

Vandaar dat ik dit nog even onder de aandacht wil brengen...

(een en ander is hier toen ook behandeld m.b.t. de ins C1 40).

 

Saludos!

 

'Azazel miembro del equipo RAIDEN, la resistencia.'