blitzteam Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 Wat is het verschil tussen een inverto black premium twin en een inverto black ultra twin lnb Vu+ duo2 Pli +Vtiit's to be or not to be
smetje limb.BE Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Black PremiumSelected Twin 40mm LNBIDLB-TWNL40-PREMU-OPPThis high-end LNB was specially selected from our production line. andIt sets new standards of quality and reliability.The LNB enables the reception of signals from one satellite and its distribution to maximum two Set Top Boxes with Single Tuner (or to one STB with Twin Tuner). It is ready for High Definition transmissions and provides excellent Noise Figure performance. Designed to meet strict specifications and manufactured to the highest industry quality standards, this LNB is an ideal solution for the satellite broadcast reception across Europe.Main Features: Very low Noise Figure Low Phase Noise, DVB-S2 (HDTV) compliant Low Power Consumption High Cross Polarization Isolation High Frequency Stability Product Specifications Low Band Input Frequency Range 10.7 ~ 11.7 GHz Low Band Output Frequency Range 950 ~ 1950 MHz Low Band LO Frequency 9.75 GHz High Band Input Frequency Range 11.7 ~ 12.75 GHz High Band Output Frequency Range 1100 ~ 2150 MHz High Band LO Frequency 10.6 GHz Noise Figure 0.2 dB Typ. (0.7 dB Max.) LO Initial Accuracy +/- 1.0 MHz Max. LO Temperature Drift +/- 3.0 MHz Max. Phase Noise (@ 10 kHz) - 85 dBc / Hz Max. Conversion Gain 55 dB Min. Gain Ripple (Over 26MHz Bandwidth) +/- 0.75 dB Gain Variation (Over Full Band) +/- 4 dB Max. Image Rejection 40 dB Min. 1 dB Compression Point (@ Output) 0.0 dBm Min. Cross Polarization Isolation 22 dB Min. Control Signal Ca (Vertical Polarization) 11.0 ~ 14.0 V Control Signal Cb (Horizontal Polarization) 16.0 ~ 20.0 V Control Signal Cc (Band Switching) 22 +/- 4 kHz Output VSWR 2.5 : 1 In-Band Spurious - 60 dBm Max. Current Consumption 180 mA Max. @ 11 ~ 20 V Operating Temperature - 30 °C ~ + 60 °C Output Impedance 75 O Output Connector F-Type (Female) Weight 181 g Dreambox 900UHD 4x twin lnb 1x bosat 1.50m .Dreambox 7020hd v2 Dreambox 800 Dreambox 8000 Dreambox 800se Dreambox 500HD Sab unix triple Xsarius Galaxy 4K gigablue trio Gigablue HD Quad Plus Zgemma H7 Cabel en Sat Samsung UE65MU7070 4K Ultra HD Smart LED Samsung UE46F6650SSXXN led 1x LG 60"lb 870v
smetje limb.BE Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 BLACK Ultra Twin HGLN 40mm LNB IDLB-TWNL40-ULTRA-OPPThis LNB is a high performance product featuring the lowest noise figure available to address the need for superior reception under the edges of the satellite footprint skirt. Thanks to its novel front-end architecture and superior components, this LNB provides higher conversion gain yet with lowest noise figure and best phase noise performance. The combination of higher spec components, excellent cross polarization isolation and advanced filter design enables improved handling of interfering spurious. All in all, this LNB provides a leap in the overall reception performance compared with standard LNBs. This LNB enables the reception of signals from one satellite, its distribution to maximum up to two Set Top Boxes with Single Tuner (or one STB with Twin Tuner) and is ready for High Definition transmissions. Designed to meet strict specifications and manufactured to the highest industry quality standards, this LNB is an ideal solution for the satellite broadcast reception across Europe. Main Features Superior Phase Noise Performance, DVB-S2 (HDTV) compliant Excellent Cross Polarization Isolation Very low Spurious Levels Superior Noise Figure Higher Conversion Gain Ultimate Reliability Product Specifications Low Band Input Frequency Range 10.7 ~ 11.7 GHz Low Band Output Frequency Range 950 ~ 1950 MHz Low Band LO Frequency 9.75 GHz High Band Input Frequency Range 11.7 ~ 12.75 GHz High Band Output Frequency Range 1100 ~ 2150 MHz High Band LO Frequency 10.6 GHz Noise Figure 0.2 dB Typ. (0.7 dB Max.) LO Initial Accuracy +/- 1.0 MHz Max.LO Temperature Drift +/- 3.0 MHz Max. Phase Noise (@ 10 kHz) - 90 dBc / Hz Max. Conversion Gain 60 dB Min. Gain Ripple (Over 26MHz Bandwidth) +/- 0.75 dB Gain Variation (Over Full Band) +/- 4 dB Max. Image Rejection 40 dB Min. 1 dB Compression Point (@ Output) 0.0 dBm Min. Cross Polarization Isolation 22 dB Min. Control Signal Ca (Vertical Polarization) 11.0 ~ 14.0 V Control Signal Cb (Horizontal Polarization) 16.0 ~ 20.0 V Control Signal Cc (Band Switching) 22 +/- 4 kHz Output VSWR 2.0 : 1 In-Band Spurious - 60 dBm Max. Current Consumption 180 mA Max. @ 11 ~ 20 V Operating Temperature - 30 °C ~ + 60 °C Output Impedance 75 O Output Connector F-Type (Female) Weight 181 g Dreambox 900UHD 4x twin lnb 1x bosat 1.50m .Dreambox 7020hd v2 Dreambox 800 Dreambox 8000 Dreambox 800se Dreambox 500HD Sab unix triple Xsarius Galaxy 4K gigablue trio Gigablue HD Quad Plus Zgemma H7 Cabel en Sat Samsung UE65MU7070 4K Ultra HD Smart LED Samsung UE46F6650SSXXN led 1x LG 60"lb 870v
smetje limb.BE Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Black Premium Conversion Gain 55 dB Min BLACK Ultra Twin HGLN 40mm LNB IDLB-TWNL40-ULTRA-OPP Conversion Gain 60 dB Min Deze is wel wat beter voor ontvangst en de prijs is niet zo veel verschil Edited November 3, 2013 by smetje limb.BE Dreambox 900UHD 4x twin lnb 1x bosat 1.50m .Dreambox 7020hd v2 Dreambox 800 Dreambox 8000 Dreambox 800se Dreambox 500HD Sab unix triple Xsarius Galaxy 4K gigablue trio Gigablue HD Quad Plus Zgemma H7 Cabel en Sat Samsung UE65MU7070 4K Ultra HD Smart LED Samsung UE46F6650SSXXN led 1x LG 60"lb 870v
smetje limb.BE Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 en deze van mti is ook een goede twin lnb MTI AP82-XT2N Universal High Line Twin 0.2 dB A high performance LNB with 2 output?. Low phase noise. DVB-S2 ( HDTV ) compliant. Low noise figure. Low power consumption. High cross-pole performance. High frequency stability. Specification: Low Band Input Frequency Range: 10.7~11.7 GHz. Low Band Output Frequency Range: 950~1950 MHz. Low Band LO Frequency: 9.75 GHz. High Band Input Frequency Range: 11.7~12.75 GHz. High Band Output Frequency Range: 1100~2150 MHz. High Band LO Frequency: 10.6 GHz. Noise Figure: 0.2 dB Typ. LO Initial Accuracy: +/- 1.0 MHz Max. LO Temperature Drift: +/- 3.0 MHz Max. Phase Noise (@ 10 kHz): - 90 dBc / Hz Max. Conversion Gain: 65 dB Min. Gain Ripple (Over 26MHz Bandwidth): +/- 0.75 dB. Gain Variation (Over Full Band) : +/- 4 dB Max. Image Rejection: 40 dB Min. 1 dB Compression Point (@ Output): 0.0 dBm Min. Cross Polarization Isolation: 25 dB Min. Control Signal Ca (Vertical Polarization): 11.0~14.0 V. Control Signal Cb (Horizontal Polarization): 16.0~20.0 V. Control Signal Cc (Band Switching): 22 +/- 4 kHz. Output VSWR: 2.0 : 1. In-Band Spurious: - 60 dBm Max. Current Consumption: 110 mA Max. @ 11~20V. Operating Temperature: - 30 °C ~+ 60 °C. Output Impedance: 75. Output Connector: F-Type (Female). Weight: 0.185 Kg. Warranty : 2 years. Dreambox 900UHD 4x twin lnb 1x bosat 1.50m .Dreambox 7020hd v2 Dreambox 800 Dreambox 8000 Dreambox 800se Dreambox 500HD Sab unix triple Xsarius Galaxy 4K gigablue trio Gigablue HD Quad Plus Zgemma H7 Cabel en Sat Samsung UE65MU7070 4K Ultra HD Smart LED Samsung UE46F6650SSXXN led 1x LG 60"lb 870v
Sprietje Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Beste blizteam Een Inverto Black Premium geeft iets mindere prestaties dan een Inverto Black Ultra maar de verschillen zijn echt niet groot. De Inverto Black Premiun behoort zeker tot de hele goede lnb’s maar de Inverto Black Ultra is onbetwist de top onder de lnb’s.In een vergelijkende test van het Duitse blad “Satvision” komt de Inverto Black Ultra als testwinnaar uit de bus. Hij krijgt voor de ontvangstprestaties maar liefst 48 van de maximaal 50 behaalbare punten. Tweede was de Octagon Optima die 45 punten voor de ontvangst kreeg.Zie deze test: http://www.inverto.tv/IMG/faq/2013%20-%2006%20Satvision%20comprehensive%20LNB%20test%20%28De%29_1.pdf
Phoenixx Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Eerst keek ik ook veel naar conversion gain, de meter gaat verder in de hoek das moooi maar meer belanrijk is de Cross Polarization Isolation: 25 dB Min die bij mti hoger is en beter zwakke signalen filtert. Maximale Cross Polarization Isolation heeft de smw type E lnb ( 32 - 36 db! ) in det geval voor ptime focus dx , kost wat maar dan heb je ook wat Edited October 9, 2014 by Phoenixx
Sprietje Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Beste PhoenixxMaximale Cross Polarization is niet de norm, minimale Cross Polarization is de norm en die is bij de MTI SMW type E 31,5dB.Maar als je nu met exotische lnb's op de proppen komt, zou de dan ook aan willen geven hoe je die op een normale consumentenschotel moet monteren, zie bijlage.
Sprietje Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Heeft een losse feed dan een montage met vier bouten met een afstand van 26,4mm horizontaal en 28,5mm verticaal?
Phoenixx Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) Daar heb je een omt voor die op je feedhorn past. Beetje late reactie, maar beter laat dan nooit Edited June 26, 2016 by Phoenixx
trust Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Sprietje , de losse feedhoorns hebben net als de Fibo lnb adapter , meerdere gaten op verschillende afstanden . Ook op de Fibo 90 past dit setje mits je het juiste haakse verbindingsstuk gebruikt . Voor de prijs hoef je het niet te laten Edited June 27, 2016 by trust Het verschil tussen theorie en praktijk is mijn uitdaging . Octagon SF8008 4K Edision Primo IP S2 Dr.HD F16 1.8 m ChannelMaster Offset in tuin 53º E - 45º W Jaeger SMR 1224 Usals met 5 Lnb wisselaar 2x Ka - Ku - C band Lin / Circ 1.2 m Echostar Offset aan schuur 53º E 34.5 W Twoteck Twinrotor met 3 Lnb wisselaar Ku - Ku low - Ka
Alex1970 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Ik heb nu het probleem met een Inverto Black Ultra single LNB dat-ie niet omschakeld naar verticale polarisatie.Dus ik heb dan weer wel zo m'n twijfels over de duurzaamheid van zo'n goedkope LNB.... Steeds een nieuwe LNB kopen omdat-ie zo snel stuk gaat is nu ook weer niet de bedoeling lijkt me.Kan iemand me een linkje sturen welke MTI ik nu precies moet kopen? Ik zie de MTI AP82-XT2N, de MTI AP82-XT (dus zonder 2N), dan weer "een MTI High Gain (70dB) LNB". En is er ook een single variant? Of is die slechter in ontvangst?Wat te denken van een losse feedhorn met flens-LNB? Geeft dat nog betere ontvangst van zwakke signalen? Ik had ooit zo'n set (Invacom TWF-031) maar de Inverto Black Ultra presteert net iets beter.Dus welke flens LNB kunnen jullie aanraden? De Inverto single LNB Black Pro IDLR-SINFOO bijv.? Dreambox DM920: 2x Triple tuner (2x DVB-S2X multistream + DVB-C/T2) OpenPLi 9 Xtrend ET10000: 1x DVB-S2, 2x DVB-C/T2, IPTV OpenPLi 9 VU+ Duo / Dreambox DM800 / TBS 5925 Channel Master 180cm offset: 39.0°E-37.6°W, Channel Master 120cm offset: 23.5°E-8°W SAB 97 schotel 45.1°E-60°E, 80cm vast: 28.2°E/23.5°E/19.2°E/13°E | DVB-T/DAB: VHFIII/UHF combi-antenne op zolder.
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